Report: TSA Ending Known Crewmember Program In 2023, My take on TSA Known Crewmember Program changes, How To Check TSA PreCheck Hours & Availability, Yuck: TSA Finds Gun Hidden In Raw Chicken, Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners, On the one hand, I do think its time that some changes are made to the Known Crewmember Program, purely based on the number of people who have abused it, On the other hand, fully screening pilots and flight attendants will take up more TSA resources and could lead to longer lines at security; furthermore, the TSA isnt actually very good at finding hidden objects, At least in the case of pilots, I think screening is kind of unnecessary, since theyre flying the plane, and if they wanted to do something, Ultimately I also get the argument that the TSA isnt there to stop drugs, but rather to stop weapons; that being said, if someone is smuggling kilos of cocaine and fentanyl, getting that off the streets (or out of the skies) doesnt seem like a bad thing. Airline pilot here. Interesting viewpoint, except for those people who never have to pass through security could easily pass said product off to said pilot, attendant, or anyone with access to the plane storage cargo. An automated enhancement to random screening/USP has been enabled in the KCM system. Hold your fellow flight attendants responsible for their actions. Date: March 18, 2022 The government-approved Known Crewmember (KCM) program allows Flight Attendants and Pilots at many airlines to enjoy the convenience of an expedited security screening. I think they should give a hefty fine and take away the privilege from the individual who couldnt follow the rules. NOTE: If the selected Crewmember exits the sterile area and attempts to reenter through a KCM access point during this time period, they will continue to be identified for USP. It is possible, however, that a crewmember may be selected for random screening. EffectiveFriday, September 6, 2019, the requirements are: Effective August 27, 2019, KCM-authorized enhancement to Unpredictable Screening Procedures (USP) will be enabled. That would stop the violations real quickly. You have a nice day. Imagine having to go through security and adding extra unpaid time to your job every time you went to work. GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!! If they want to look in my bag, no problem. If you really think flying is dangerous because of 9/11 then I would say there are a million other things besides that one and this is an unnecessary power grab by a government agency. Uniformed crewmembers are exempt from 3-1-1 restrictions. You dont have flight attendants so have no special procedures during flight. @ Alan -- I mean, I think the people who are actually caught with serious things (like kilos of cocaine) are facing worse punishment than just being banned from KCM Full disclosure- Im a flight attendant, and its frustrating to lose this privilege because of crew members who dont follow the rules. Why is all the blame put on flight attendants? There is automation that could easily reduce that time and move the whole process along faster for all passengers - more than offsetting the increased number of airline personnel that have to be scanned. If you arrive at the busiest times, youll see dozens of airport staff coming thru the PreCheck positions. I'll be signed in and ready for work whenever. You walk on your own to TSA Pre and wait in line with everyone else. I was next and was told I need further screening tho I did not ring told FA cannot be further screened so I have to be screened??? What are you 10 years old kid. That should have never been allowed any more than ground workers could access special security lines when traveling. I'll bet you're very good at stacking pillows and blankets around something you'll never find. But of course, they would have to pay them more. TSA might not be perfect but I would rather have them then not. That only causes issues. 0000006114 00000 n Pilots have years and $100,000 plus dollars invested in this career. And while I'm in line to be scanned throughout the KCM door, they just walk in without ID check. 53 0 obj <> endobj They just flash their ID and in they go to the secure area. I don't really care if literally the whole crew, all my fellow passengers, and TSA are all smuggling drugs on every flight so long as I get where I'm headed. Security is an illusion there is no reason to subject those flying the airplane to TSA checks. The SF system randomly selects individuals to undergo selectee screening and will identify the printed boarding pass or seat request card with a SSSS. Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. I would love to see the upcoming changes on the program since I'm currently a flight attendant. Are they really catching crew members with drugs? They are a clueless bunch of goons. Crewmembers who do not have a KCM barcode card, have a worn/unreadable barcode card, or have not completed the registration process will be referred to the passenger screening checkpoint for entry into the airport sterile area. BS, airports like MIA and MCO all and I mean all employees entering the sterile or SIDA area of the airport are screened. Susan Hollis Garrett. Didn't we all crewmembers provided the Agency with Fingerprints, ( They want new one's by next year 2023 ). This includes: one open liter of alcoholic beverage and 300 cigarettes, or 50 cigars, or 2 kilograms of smoking tobacco, or a proportionate amount of each; merchandise not exceeding $200 in value, which may include gifts the crew member has purchased for persons in the United States, free of duty. Known Crewmember Sign Up Username Password Password Requirements: Your password must contain at least 15 characters. A KCM denial could result from a database error that is nonspecific to that crewmember, or it might involve a miscommunication with the crewmembers airline database. Maybe you should check YOUR attitude! Say hello to people and ask them how they are doing. I have a problem with the guy with the neck tattoo making $18 bucks an hour that moves in and out of security without a second look telling me, a retired army officer with a top secret security clearance that I need more scrutiny. There's no generally available program that would allow most people to bypass airport security altogether. When you are selected for random, at Denver for instance, you are told to go to random screening. If Will is a pilot, it only reinforces the often primadonma, elitist egos of many pilots. When the JetBlue flight attendant in LAX got caught with cocaine shortly after F/As were included in the program, we all saw the writing on the wall. Without them, you're just an individual sitting in the gate area, getting angrier because your flight is delayed because the flight attendants are stuck in You really need to understand a few basics of airline travel. Known Crewmember Program Information The National Air Transportation Association (NATA) and NATA Compliance Services (NATACS) is pleased to offer the Known Crewmember Program (KCM ) to certain Part 135 and Part 125 air charter pilots. I say some because there are agents, pilots, and flights that don't clear security at all. While you have no idea what its like going through security as many times as we do with our heavy bag, etc, as many times as we do, it is actually quite frustrating to walk up to kcm and be randomed 2/3 of the time. Should be required to use clear backpacks or purses to pass security/ metal detectors should be used and nothing else should be allowed on premises. You really need to understand a few basics of airline travel. In commercial aviation, the aircrew are called flight crew. Then you have to listen to Its not entitlement. Interesting comment, at my local airport, SEA, screening for airport employees is done by the Port of Seattle, on a lower level, NOT the TSA at the lanes that the traveling public uses. Effective January 13, 2015, the Transportation Security Administration's (TSA) Known Crewmember (KCM) requirements changed to provide crewmembers access to KCM out of uniform. 0000009729 00000 n In fact, there is at least one pilot sitting in jail in a foreign country because he forgot he had his gun. Enter your email address here and we will send you an email with your username and instructions on how to change your password. Such conduct can jeopardize crewmembers of their right to participate in the program and consequently jeopardizes the entire Known Crew Member (KCM) program. Its simply aggravation when you have to wait on a slow ass employee bus then drag your bag to security and here an offer say You wanna try your luck with a dumb ass grin on their face. The perpetrator will gain access without a doubt because they're never checked as they walk in. It's not about logistics. 0000060864 00000 n the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has found circumstances where there have been egregious violations of the KCM requirements. Lmao you think I care about wait times and passenger volume? When it was in this form, there were virtually no problems. Unfortunately, due to the dubious actions and agendas of a few, here we are. How do you call yourselves life savers when you routinely smuggle drugs which KILL people. 0000004686 00000 n 0 The first step should be eliminating flight attendants from any expedited screening program. First, crew members appreciate having a KCM check point. That has never happened at any US domestic airport. - you would really have more "professionals" and those are less likely to abuse the system. I ever wondered what if one of these TSA screeners or even a LEO get jumped in the Employees parking lot or else where and their uniform stolen?. I am flight crew, and for all flight crew here talking about going to the end of the line, taking your sweet time to delay the flight, etc.youve got it wrong. If TSA cannot confirm a crewmembers identity or current employment status at the KCM access point, the crewmember will be directed to the passenger-screening checkpoint. This is not a U.S. government site. 0000060977 00000 n I'm a 44 year flight attendant. So much so, that I usually just go to security line. A second non-expired government-issued photo ID. #3 is DEN - they do a secondary screening where they swipe the crew member's hands and test the swab in a machine. Things have gotten so bad, I am ready for a fight. I dont think there was EVER a 3-4 HOUR security line.except maybe right after 9/11 or perhaps a few times in AMS over the summer. If you look at the Number of incidents that are occurring, the majority, are all flight attendants. Crewmembers will be met by a TSA Security Officer (TSO) who will ask for a KCM barcode card and the appropriate identification requirements (see above). Well, at least for larger airports. I have heard stories of pilots and flight attendants ferrying money, drugs and electronics and that has led to the loss of this expedited service for us. Duh. Crewmembers traveling with pets will be directed to the passenger-screening checkpoint and screened in accordance with TSA screening procedures. 0000010714 00000 n The KCM system uses a secure connection to communicate with the participating airlines crewmember database to determine the eligibility and employment status of the crewmember. You, Mr "peepee" sound as though you already have a preconceived notion about flight attendants and are lumping us all together. Most crew have known for YEARS NOW that the TSA has done a piss-poor job of screening. You seem to be missing the point and just jumping on the offense instead. Im flight crew @ ORD. Thats a great idea especially as we strip off all our jewelry, belts, shoes, food, drinks, and 6-pk for overnight! KCM is Accessible Only for "Active" Crewmembers. Hopefully, this is thought out carefully, or there will be delays because crewmembers will be held up at security checkpoints. Zr 6+D`CWqkvqdG;\x\pxuS]\`IR]C}0MH7nVi V^VOHD \/q,B"A ?#a),O 6o_?y \Q:@ av Throw the book at the offenders. Crewmembers may use KCM access points in or out of uniform in accordance with the identification requirements above. Many common items found in your household can be considered dangerous goods for the purpose of air transport. As for the flight attendant vs. pilot issue, the justification for including flight attendants was always that there simply was not enough volume to maintain KCM checkpoints just for pilots. "Y'all fucked around and found out". They're the offenders over and over. known crew member (kcm) access seatac known crew member (kcm) access seatac photos known crew member (kcm) access seatac location The current limits are arbitrary and nearly meaningless. Crewmembers may request a new or replacement KCM barcode card from their airline management. KCM is beneficial when not abused. You don't like your job and you feel so miserable at it. As a paying subscriber of CLEAR & TSAPre, I would welcome a dedicated crew/employee line for those employees that are working. Now, when TSA asks, I just say Im not playing Your Game of going thru two lines, this is all eyewash anyway. It will be easier for you to smuggle drugs that way. Are allowed access to TSA PreChecklanes and standard passenger screening lanes. There's too many crewmembers to have them all go through pre-check. This includes items such as lawn darts and several baby products (for example certain seats and cribs). Failure to submit to screening at the passenger screening checkpoint (e.g., using a SIDA badge to avoid screening) is considered circumvention of screening, and TSA may take enforcement action in accordance with the KCM Disqualification Protocols (KCMDP). Perhaps we should make it easy for flight attendants to get to the aircraft too? If the crewmember/s indicates possession of the items above or personal international travel, the TSO will notify a Supervisory-TSO (STSO). Crewmembers may not transit the KCM portal with any. You also clearly dont know what youre talking about if youre suggesting to not screen pilots. The ones working the KCM check point are the laziest ones. * link https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/02/411423341/head-of-tsa-reassigned-after-tests-reveal-security-failures, you tsa guys are cluelessspend a day in ben gurion airport (TLV) and learn what it takes to prevent a 9-11. Also, many large airports have crew and employee security checkpoints that are currently in the secure area that are accessible by employee shuttle buses. Ive definitely noticed an increase in random screenings over the last several months. A: No. Legal Notice: This website is only intended to provide an overview of the Known Crewmember program. 0000005203 00000 n It is only there to prevent security threats to aviation, originally hijacking then terrorist attacks. Once you arrive at the boarding gate and your pass has not been properly marked by the TSA, you will be sent back to the passenger screening checkpoint for proper screening. 0000003664 00000 n Tuesday, April 13, 2021. Stop worrying about pilots in flight, attendants and worry about every other employee. First as the article stated, pilots fly the airplane so and second, at most major airports ground personnel do not have to clear security at all, ever! 0000056810 00000 n . These are limited to 3.4 ounces (100 milliliters) or less per item. HAAAA!!! b. Sponsored by ALPA and Airlines for America. Flight attendants should have a probationary period and then allowed in as well. KCM is a risk-based security program. Ive definitely noticed an increase in random screenings over the last several months. This would no longer be a joint initiative with the Air Line Pilots Association and Airlines for America, but rather would entirely be under the control of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). The exception is that employees will sometimes be randomly selected to be screened, and the number of random screenings has reportedly increased significantly in recent months (and will continue to increase). I've always been concerned they let them into known crewmember from day one. "A half a block" really? My concern for flight attendants would be the TSA liquid limits. The most common hard skill for a mcdonalds crew member is cleanliness. endstream endobj 62 0 obj <> endobj 63 0 obj <>stream A 14 year old girl flew coast to coast solo, followed by her father, an airline captain in another plane. If they increased the requirements - say you have to have a 2 year degree -- an EMT license, etc. Remember, the crew may instead check your carry-on luggage when embarking, so if you carry any electronics that break the MSC drone policy, they may be confiscated until the end of the cruise. If they increased the requirements - say you have to have a 2 year degree -- an EMT license, etc. board the aircraft. Sorry the rule applies if you don't like it then leave. Prohibited Items Week 2021. We will just have more delayed flights. 0000002043 00000 n I am a U.S. airline pilot, and while disappointing, this development was not unexpected. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has provided new guidance to the Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) staffing the Known Crewmember (KCM )Access Points. How many pilots have been caught smuggling? Pilots are not easily replaced, flight attendants are. H\Ak0:bf0mBmM85ld8.!gv?d}R{>Eee Their union fought for this they should be allowed to keep it. I have also seen pilots try to bring animals or children through KCM with them. The plane wont be leaving without me as long as I inform schedule that Im in the airport. I have. I've got nothing to hide. At this point just shut it down and make a dedicated TSA precheck line for crew members only to help keep regular lines clear. a. Its really an interesting take when you mention pilots dont need to be screened as much. At most: I would like to be seen as a whistle blower. Crewmembers who do not have a KCM barcode card, have a worn/unreadable barcode card, or have not completed the registration process will be referred to the passenger screening checkpoint for entry into the airport sterile area If a crewmember does not present an active KCM barcode card and is referred for screening, they must follow the TSOs instructions and complete the screening process at the passenger screening checkpoint. Why even bother with KCM? Actually, I've seen the pre- check line longer than the general boarding line! Too bad Clayton Osbon didn't have a gun and kill the fo right? EVEN with FULL KCM we constantly have to go thru full passenger screening because some airports have NO KCM or limited hours. If the program went back to its origins, it would work fine, but the authorities are far too politically correct to exclude just one problem group, so now we all get to suffer for their sins. We did it Joe! 2.3 They should just permanently ban the violators from KCM. I'll bet you're very good at stacking pillows and blankets around something you'll never find. in order to get funding for another 10 years, whenin fact, they are not. who cares..I pay TSA people out of my taxes to keep a 9-11 from happening again. A KCM denial could result from a database error that is nonspecific to you, or it might involve a miscommunication with your air carrier. I recently took a leave of absence from my airline, am I eligible to use KCM while on leave? 0000000896 00000 n and when people are searched - which IS part of the security screening process - then there is a legitimate NECESSITY to escalate something that is illegally found to the appropriate law enforcement authorities. Whats the data? I have witnessed them walk through checkpoints in droves with little more than a flash of a badge. You also are aware that pilots have had their fair share of violations with kcm too, right? Surely if it truly were that long Donna (Karen) you absolutely would have taken a photo. TSA properly is strictly for managing terroristic threats. Maybe pilots should stop bringing their guns to work. They are not the DEA and yet they end up finding ridiculous amounts of drugs usually because some idiot left a water bottle in the bag. . The continued success of the program is dependent upon crewmembers demonstrating that they can be trusted to comply with all related requirements. I hate skipping customers in line at general, CLEAR or precheck. I know that this isn't going to be a popular suggestion, but let take the flight attendants out of the program and let the pilots have the program. That would solve the vast majority of the issues. The FAA in their infinite wisdom starting requiring flight attendants to have an FAA Airman certificate several years ago. There are a number of products which have entry or exit limitations in Spain from outside the European Union, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein. Most crew have known for YEARS NOW that the TSA has done a piss-poor job of screening. This is exactly why you dont want the US government telling you how to live your life or whats good for you. Since they have random and say catch someone doing something illegal make that individual go through the whole security process instead of punishing all of us? Will you diffuse the bomb and save the day? Crewmembers should follow TSA instructions and not attempt to resolve the issue with TSA officers as they are unable to rectify system failures or denials. It was thought up and the Airline pilots Union and not he Flight attendants union. I'm sure many blog readers have stories of this to share. All rights reserved. So easy to tell some of you are not actually pilots because you know nothing about the crew procedures. An aircraft can board without a pilotbut not without the minimum crew of flight attendants.. and considering how long our duty days are, I don't know any flight attendants willing to leave their layover hotel a couple hours earlier. Dangerous Goods must not be carried in (or as) passenger or crew-checked baggage To my knowledge its not that many. When it was expanded to include flight attendants, we almost immediately saw issues developing. Flight attendants do not have as much to loose as a pilot. 0000004455 00000 n Crew are human. Absolutely no verification of credentials or inspection of personal items. Flight attendants have the weapons they need readily available: cockpit access and a bottle of wine from the galley. The TSA Special Screening Procedures (SSP) for KCM do not allow crewmembers to use a temporary government issued photo ID for access into the airport sterile area through a KCM access point. Now there's a delayairline management won't like that idea. I just love how every flight attendant in the World is a drug smuggler and pilots have never been arrested for anything. Why not just revoke the flight attendants privileges and keep KCM for pilots? 11/21/22 Notice to KCM Participating Airlines, 6/29/22 Notice to KCM Participating Airlines, 3/1/22 Notice to KCM Participating Crewmembers, 6/23/20 Notice to KCM Participating Crewmembers, A non-expired government-issued photo ID; and, An aircraft operator-issued crewmember photo ID. You walk on your own to TSA Pre and wait in line with everyone else. To the direct and accurate comment that newly minted Flight Attendants who don't have much of a career to lose and much to gain from smuggling..I say if the resources are low then allow KCM for pilots only.
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