Maybe it was Martinas tone of voice, or maybe she forgot to say please, whatever it was, it didnt set right with Jones. Remember, this was on an advanced bodybuilder, the hardest specimen to realize real muscle growth because of being so close to his genetic potential. Drew Baye: Are you saying that you absolutely have to have help in applying high intensity training the Arthur Jones way? He ate a well-balanced diet that included foods from many dietary groups, such as grains, vegetables, fruits, meat, and healthy fat sources, as opposed to focusing solely on proteins. Sup with that? Ellington Darden: Yes thats precisely what we were thinking. Mentzer would spend hours in the gym every day when he began training. Drew Baye: If you place those potential HIT users on the far left side a normal, bell-shaped curve, what would you label those on the far right side high-volume trainees? I dont know what went wrong., New High Intensity Training Book Differences. Ken and I, for several years, had tried various approaches during Nautilus seminars to debate people who believed they needed daily aerobic activity to be healthy. Ray was concerned about this since he didnt want his brother to put too much stress on his body given that he knew he had cardiac issues. At the contest, he weighed 215 and blew away the competition. Only then do you let it return to full extension. That stated, Casey Viator gained 39.87 thats right, just 0.13 shy of 40 pounds of muscle in two weeks. Your goal is for each repetition to take 30 seconds: 15 seconds on the positive and 15 seconds on the negative. Take the hips and thighs as an example. Filmed in the gym late at night, they blast their way through their display workout routines with heavy weights which are a little less than they would normally use. Viator lived nearby so Lerille invited him over to talk with Jones and go though a workout. While many people know the basics of Heavy Duty training, the advanced techniques are known by only a few. Mike Mentzer's brother, Ray, put three-eights on an inch on his presumably larger upper arm in six weeks, performing no more direct arm work that chins and dips. If you read nutrition labels, sucrose, glucose, fructose, and maltose, all refer to sugar. It was the essential basic Heavy Duty routine consisting of four to five sets per bodypart and broken into two workouts. His left arm was 19 inches. Ray made at least one appearance at the Ephrata Rec Center, signing autographs for fans. That reinforced to me that the weight gain was added muscle and not just water brought about from the creatine loading. We remain great friends and I try to see him once a month. On our Nautilus leg-extension machine, Ray did 290 pounds for 10 good repetitions, Mullen said, as he paused and cleared his throat. Reverse curlStage reps . I noticed that Cooper was being very animated and seemed to be expressing himself well. What muscular biceps and full triceps he possessed. The result: Jones built 11-1/4 pounds of muscle in 14 days, which is not bad at all for a man almost 50 years of age. Once he had reached that stage, Ray would ask his workout partner to assist him in performing another 2 to 3 forced reps while maintaining slow, precise form and controlling the weight. I was going to watch the deliberations from my angle for 10 minutes, and join the action. In 1971, when he was 20, he participated in Mr. Lancaster contest and won. "A LOOK AT HIGH INTENSITY BODYBUILDING" is a professionally made film featuring the legendary MIKE MENTZER, one of bodybuilding's most massive physique champions and world renowned expert and teacher of HIGH INTENSITY TRAINING. I want no part of it. Finally, it was the middle of April, a month before the Jr. Mr. America, and Jones realized that if he doesnt return to training Casey, Casey might get beat at the national event. My methodology is simply to keep pushing at 100% force (or near as I can) until the force drops off significantly, rest a couple of seconds, and repeat until strength-levels drop way down and pain-levels become unbearable. Here's what he would have for lunch: i. Super Set of {Leg Extensions and Leg Presses} {1 Super Set} x 6-8 Reps. ii. McCutcheon trains by himself in his basement. Drugs, hormone injections, implants, and who knows what else, have destroyed professional bodybuilding today. Ellington Darden: The last Mr. Olympia contest that I attended was in 1995 in Atlanta. Ray will be remembered for his incredible strength and never-say-die outlook on training and life. The legacy he left to those in the Iron Game is his controversial workout program, Mike Mentzer's Heavy Duty. After some small talk, he was going to ask him bluntly to define exercise. And it can still be accomplished without drugs today. Ray, like other great bodybuilders, developed a love for the sport of lifting early in life. Today, if you walk into any serious gym in the United States (or in the world), doing negatives is a regular part of a lifters vocabulary. We then expected some locking of horns to occur. Mike Mentzer 3 day workout routine I found this on youtube and wanted to share it with you guys. When Ray had the Muscle Mill in Redondo Beach, there was a guy named Ross who worked for Universal Studio as a stage man-an experienced machinist. Maintaining a healthy weight as a bodybuilder becomes increasingly essential, especially after age 40. The other project is best described by its working title: Accentuate the NEGATIVE: The Negative Way to Positive Fat Loss. The man seemed to project a mesmerizing spell on us and we soon found our heads nodding to concepts that were directly against what we believed. Ive experimented with all styles of leg presses and this one is the hardest of all. 290 pounds on the Nautilus leg extension machine, I believe Ive done that much., Having cleared his throat, Mullen continued . My reasoning is that a younger body can handle cheating much better than an older body, so as you get older, youd be wise to focus more on form than intensity. So we use the body's abilities to create inroads into existing strength to our advantage. Hutchins was a beginner and I had been training seriously for a number of years. I disagree with Darden that theres a strike against isometrics vs negatives here. I thought Mike would have thrived being around Nautilus and Arthur Jones. He played defensive tackle and was about 6 feet 2 inches tall and weighed 230 pounds. At the planned 10-minute mark, I walked over. Sadly, Ray passed away just two days after skipping his kidney dialysis appointment. Ray completely overlooked the fact that he had to show up for his renal dialysis treatment amid the chaos that day. Benny Podda told me they would have five and six guys and squat for hours (how many hours was never defined), multiple sets, long rest periods, etc. For this discussion, though, I'm considering conventional equipment which restricts most large-muscle moves to multijoint exercises. But soon after Ray called it a day on his bodybuilding career, he developed kidney issues. When an intermediate or advanced bodybuilder finds himself on a plateau, he is wise to consider cutting back on workout volume, while reasserting his commitment to a high intensity of effort. As bodybuilders most of us want to feel as though we're "sculpting our bodies" not allowing nature (read: rest) to do most of the job for us. But his well-documented progress is nonetheless directly attributable to his well-organized increase in intensity and the attendant diminishing of exercise volume. As we discussed the topic further, I glanced across the lobby, which was in the center of four departure-arrival gates. But it was no use. Here we can see Mike mentoring Markus Reinhardt on the heavy duty stuff. After years of competition, Mike decided to quit his competitive career and concentrate on new projects in 1982. This is something I will be covering in the book, with references. The New Bodybuilding for Old-School Results by Ellington Darden. Hutchins was mostly involved in the physical therapy side of Nautilus, which finally led to his supervisory position in a Nautilus-sponsored osteoporosis research project at the University of Florida Medical School in 1982. Im not sure why he permitted it because he certainly understood what proper form was. This is a reposting from 2004, during which time I was still working with Hutchins at the SuperSlow Zone. Join the discussion or ask questions about this post in the HIT List forum. Concerning the educational system in Conroe, small-town football was big in Texas. The materials are provided "as is" and without warranties of any kind either express or implied. Here is where indirect effect comes in. Ray would approach failure after the ninth rep because the weight would be too heavy. Drew Baye: Dr. Darden, which do you think is more important in getting the best results from HIT, intensity or form? As HIT decreased its following from 16 to 8 percent, high-volume training (HVT) increased its numbers from 16 to 24 percent. Compared to full-range exercise, Id have to say that full-range exercise given that youre dealing with healthy trainees would supply many more benefits. Ellington Darden: It is interesting that both Ken and I were raised in Conroe, Texas, which is 30 miles north of Houston. Doesn't he realize I plan to win Mr. America next year looking like Larry Scott? After graduating from high school, he worked in United States Air Force and started working out 3 hours a day and 6 days a week. !,especially now that hes dead and kept on raving about Casey Viator. Jim Flanagan and I trained Casey for several months in 1978, and helped get his body weight up to 220 pounds, but it was a real chore trying to get him fired-up for the majority of his training sessions. As you stated, however, theres a place for timed static contractions in exercising people who have certain limitations. Squat But my books differences can be grouped as follows: History: In my opinion, Arthur Jones, more than any single individual, developed high intensity training. When I went to Baylor University in 1962, there was a guy on the football team named Bobby Crenshaw. At about the same time, he hired Kim Wood to take charge of the Quonset Hut workout room at DeLand High School, where all the training occurred. . Ellington Darden: The first thing that pops into my mind happened in Atlanta, Georgia, one night in February 1980. "Editing Workout was one of the most enjoyable things I've ever done," Mike claims. "It lasted 18 months, and every day of that period I had the same commitment and ambition I'd had in preparing . He quickly competed in and won the Junior Mr. America and IFBB Mr. America competitions. Is that correct? Joe Mullen, a former Nautilus club owner, recently told me that he saw Ray go through a HIT workout in 1999. Squats - 1 x 16 reps There we were with thousands of frustrated people and a couple of hours to burn. Drew Baye: When Jones trained someone, was he a stickler for form? Once I saw her creative design and layout, I realized that she had leapfrogged significantly my other bodybuilding books. One of the most intense training regimes out there for bodybuilding is known as the "Heavy Duty" method. He himself typically trained three times a week and his 30-minute workouts incorporated no more than 5 sets per body part. Viator more than doubled Hudlows rate of growth. Ellington Darden: I like SuperSlow. Mike's younger brother Ray Mentzer (Mr. America 1979) discovered Mike's dead body. My suspicion is that the physical weights have great symbolic value in the psychology of training, so no one really gives isometrics a good run. Serves coffee strong enough to stand an elephant on its ear. Mike and Ray Mentzer Heavy Duty Training Mentzer's Lost Heavy Duty Secrets. He developed Bergers illness. That reinforced to me that Ray Mentzer was the strongest man Ive ever trained, and Ive been training people for more than 40 years. This can be carried to a logical extreme. Drew Baye: Can you tell me more about this NTF workout. Gwyneth Paltrow: what is the secret of her great look and feeling at 50? Ray quickly surpassed the 250 lb weight threshold thanks to an excessive intake of calories. Ray was the first bodybuilder I ever saw who weighed 250 pounds or more, in fairly lean condition. Heavy Duty: Mike Mentzer's Most Productive Routine, by John Little. I figure that one set of this will hit all fibre-types; I often have vicious recovery-pains following this protocol. I have read before that Mike and Ray Mentzer were really into using amphetamines to train harder. In 1978, at Sean Harringtons Nautilus club in Los Angeles, I witnessed Mike go through a true HIT workout. This is where his training progressed. Born: It involves a very unique way to vary the repetition number, as well as the slowness of each repetition. However, a number of trainees seem to suffer overtraining even from such brief workouts once they genuinely achieve an intense level of effort. # posted by Paul @ 10:00 AM. Important, you must have a clock or a watch with a second hand that you can place in plain sight. After a while, we would have to pin additional weight on most of the Nautilus machines. Casey could make his biceps, in a series of three distinct contractions, grow more massive as he moved his forearm closer to his shoulder. Let me explain. Viators arms reminded me of Popeye, because his hanging forearms appeared disproportionately large and impressive. His name was Wilbur Miller and in 1964 he deadlifted 715 pounds, while weighing 245 pounds, which was a world record at that time. But as I look back on my 45 years of bodybuilding experience, combined with the thousands and thousands of individuals Ive trained (and observed training), I can say with confidence that more people would profit from an understanding and application of proper form, than from proper intensity. It was the essential basic Heavy Duty routine consisting of four to five sets per bodypart and broken into two workouts. To me there was nothing new about this book and can you really gain that amount of muscle within that time span? Mike Mentzer split What was the Mike Mentzer's training split? I would love for it to be wrong, but hey, it might be right. He passed away in 2001 at 49-years-old due to a heart attack. A major reason, I believe, is either ignorance, or a neglecting, of the principle of "indirect effect". Mike and Ray are the only two brothers in history to both win the Mr. America contest. I have repeatedly come across trainers asserting that static contraction is a good second-best for those with limited mobility or other disabilities; I have not seen the research to prove that it should be regarded as second-best at all, nor have I seen anyone cite such research it seems to be just a belief thats out there. He also has several bars and 400 pounds of free weights. DB shoulder press - 1 x 8 reps He was found dead in his apartment, due to heart complications, by his younger brother and fellow bodybuilder Ray Mentzer. Mike suffered a heart attack while he was sleeping. I do think, however, that the creatine monohydrate formula was responsible for from 25 to 30 percent of the results. Casey trained himself (with a few others sometimes helping) for 6 of the 10 months. About 75 of my old friends were there and we had a great time reliving the good old days. One of the highlights was a film that Terry Todd, of the University of Texas, had assembled that showed black-and-white movie clips from the AAU Mr. America contests, 1940 through 1954. Also, Im in the process of updating my Web site, which was called Classic X. But I believe its a reasonable goal to aim for one-tenth of that number during the first year after publication. This was largely because of his new training regimen, Heavy Duty Training, which was developed by Mike Mentzer, his older brother by 21 months. As a result, I gave him some articles by Arthur Jones to ponder. How do you get a physique like Chris Evans? Forced negs had the same effect. There are a few in that category today, but there werent any in 1983. Thus, I spend about half of my 272-page book relating the stories and experiences of Jones. . Calf Raise1 1/4 reps Did he ever do any amusing things around Nautilus? This is a great way to isolate a muscle that tends to miss it due to less-than-perfect form. Ray, his brother, who is also suffering from illnesses, found him. Rest 2 to 3 minutes Drew Baye: How many bodybuilders do you figure are interested in HIT? In fact, Ive never seen anybody better at keeping a relaxed face during HIT than Jones. Then, the high altitude associated with being in the mountains of Fort Collins, Colorado, had him feeling somewhat dizzy, especially during his workout. He died in 2001 from heart complications. He started competing at the age of 18 in local contests. Undergrip row Tag: Ray Mentzer. While Mike Mentzer was serving in the US Air Force, he would work 12-hour shifts, and then follow that up with 'marathon workouts', as was the accepted standard in those days. Also I put Steve Reeves through a workout in 1978, as well as Frank Zane and Bob Guida. Mike and Ray Mentzer Dead Monday morning, June 11, 2001, an e-mail was sent to us saying that Mike Mentzer has passed away June 9th. Mentzer was inducted in the IFBB Hall of Fame in 2002. Ray used the same Heavy Duty Training training regimen as his brother Mike. Ray frequently rested completely for 34 days after his rigorous training sessions. I'd better leave this nut to the pipestem, get-in-shape, "muscle tone" crowd Well, before you click to another article, let me say that this routine isn't hypothetical. I remember coming in on a Monday and Benny informed me that Ray had squatted 900 that past Saturday. Today, that percentage of involvement has shrunk by half, which leaves approximately 8 percent. Stiff-legged Deadlift This crazy author thinks I want spaghetti arms! Similar things can be said of delts, calves and abs based on the same principle. So long as full effort can be engendered, 100% of strength and endurance capabilities can be exhausted with isometric exercise. Ellington Darden: Lou Schuler, who was recently appointed editor of Rodales newest magazine called, Mens Health MUSCLE, asked me the same question a while back. Body Building Links. Drew Baye: In chapter 9 of your new HIT book, you talk about meeting and working with Mike Mentzer. It's rumored he could bench press 370lbs (170kg) at the time. Don't let'em food you. Employ forced reps when possible. Ray found out he had kidney issues in 1999. One reason the squat is considered such a great overall exercise is the sheer volume of muscle the movement exercises. He stood only 5'8 yet packed 215 pounds of rock-solid muscle on his . But one of my main problem with the book was that he seemed to put down Mike Mentzer!! Ellington Darden: Yes, I believe youre right, especially those who recommend only three exercises once a week, or even once every-other week. Leg Curls . Hi Drew, I was just reading that interview, Ive bought his book,hoping there would be something new, but have found that he was just vomiting what arthur jones did and said. Crenshaw had 18-inch upper arms and 15-inch forearms, which were mighty impressive; but even more impressive was his neck, which must have measured at least 20 inches. Annabel DaSilva Workout Routine, Diet Plan, Exercise, Body Measurements, Who is Josh Dallas? When Arnold Schwarzenegger and Franco Columbu visited the Nautilus headquarters in mid-November 1970, Viator weighed 215 pounds and impressed both of the professional champions. Drew Baye: What did you think of Mentzers Heavy-Duty books? Ray would subsequently go on to become a legend in the bodybuilding world with his vascular 20+ inch arms and then-unimaginable weight of 275 pounds. By Paul Becker. We are not medical professionals and nothing on this website should be misconstrued to mean otherwise. "For a while Mike and I strayed from our high intensity, heavy poundage workouts into a program using lighter weights and higher reps. He consumed more than 60% of his daily calories as carbohydrates. But first, the medical professionals had to determine whether Mikes kidney was compatible with Rays. Ray learned that Mike had severe cardiac problems while he was waiting for the kidney transplant, and Mike passed away on June 10th, 2001 as a result. Ray Mentzer Stats Lateral Raise Drew Baye: Do you have an interesting story about Ken Hutchins that you could share? The death of his beloved brother proved to be too much to bear for Ray. He started competing in the most prestigious competitions all over America, establishing himself in the process. Actually, the personal-training part was much less than that. Terms of Use - Disclaimer - Privacy Policy. Jones had driven from his home in Lake Helen, Florida, to Los Angeles and on the way back he stopped by Red Lerilles gym in Lafayette, Louisiana, and reassembled some of his initial Nautilus machines that he had displayed in California a week earlier. He won both the AAU Mr. America and the IFBB Mr. America and year later in 1978. For your next workout, I want you to increase the resistance by 25 percent (which is 75 percent of your normal resistance for 10 repetitions). When did you go all absolutionist? I recommend his books and training principles, but I do not advocate is maintance routine. Dip Workouts one and three are the ones that stress your largest muscle masses in the upper and lower body, with the first emphasizing the legs, while the torso is hammered in the third. Sitting about 30 yards away was a man who was also examining slides and arranging them in a carousel. I must point out this about Viators courage and fortitude. As a general rule I dont recommend stopping an exercise short of momentary muscular failure and instead recommend allowing extra days for recovery or doing a workout just focused on smaller muscle groups which wont affect recovery as much. Press Behind NeckStage reps You must be logged in to post a comment This would not be a problem with quasi-isometric protocols like Static Holds and Max Contraction which follow isometric failure with a full or partial negative. Mike was exercising six days a week in the gym, typically for up to three hours at a time, when he started his four years of service in the US air . Bodybuilder Ray Mentzer was Mike Mentzer's younger brother and training partner.
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